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Upcoming events

    • 12/03/2022
    • 8:30 AM
    • 12/04/2022
    • 5:00 PM
    • Meet Up Location @ Registration




    MSA FIELD TRIP INFORMATION

    RED CLOUD, NORTH & SOUTH GERONIMO MINES


    MEET TIME: 8:45 AM, Saturday, December 3, 2022 (meeting location and trip details will be sent via email after registration)

    END TIME:  Day trip or overnight based on attendee desires.

    TRIP DETAIL:  Trip is planned as an overnight trip starting early on Saturday, Dec 3rd to Sunday, Dec 4th.  It is up to you if you want to stay overnight Saturday.  

    LIMITED TRIP: No Limit 

    FEE's:  See Collecting Fee's Below.  

    TRAVEL NOTE: Please allow at least 1/2 hour more time than normal to get to the meeting spot. The delays were not noted on the state of Arizona highway condition website.

    VEHICLE: Higher Clearance vehicles required.  2WD okay and 4WD recommended.

    SAFETY:  *** No Carpooling being arranged ***  

    RECOMMENDED:  

    • Red Cloud Mine (Surface): rock hammer, chisels, 3-5 lb sledgehammer, hard hat, safety glasses, gloves, long pants, long sleeve shirts, collecting container/bucket.  Sturdy shoes or boots and normal day hiking items.  Sunscreen, hat, extra water. 
    • Fluorescent Hunting: portable UV lamps or lights at All Mines
    • South Geronimo Mine (Surface): rock hammer, chisels, 3-5 lb sledgehammer, hard hat, safety glasses, gloves, long pants, long sleeve shirts, collecting container/bucket.  Sturdy shoes or boots and normal day hiking items.  Sunscreen, hat, extra water. 
    • North Geronimo Mine (UNDERGROUND): (limit number of collectors and physical condition): headlamp attached to hard hat.  (Charged up batteries for headlamp). Rock hammer, chisels, safety glasses, gloves, long pants, long sleeve shirts, collecting backpack or container/bucket, sturdy shoes or boots.

    MATERIAL: Wulfenite, Fluorescents, Vanadinite, Fluorite, Calcite 

    TRIP LEADER: Chris Whitney-Smith (MSA)

    RSVP REQUIRED: ASAP NOW BY AUGUST 30, 2022 due to Special Events with "The Crystal Collector" in December.  MSA needs to get RSVP headcount in August to secure SPOTS at Each Mine.


    Red Cloud Mine 2020, Steve Kaminski photo.

    Wulfenite, Red Cloud Mine, Chris Whitney-Smith photo.

    MSA at Red Cloud Mine 2020, Chris Whitney-Smith photo.


    Our first trip in December is to the world-famous Red Cloud Mine for Wulfenite and fluorescents and North & South Geronimo Mines, just north of Yuma.  This is planed as an overnight trip starting early on Saturday through Sunday.  It is up to you if you want to stay overnight Saturday.  It is about a 3-hour trip from Phoenix to the meeting spot and another hour-half to the mine.  You have the option of staying at a hotel in Yuma on Friday and then it is only a 45-minute drive to the meeting spot on Saturday morning.  

    Here are the important points to be aware of:

    1. Meet-Up ONLY on Saturday, December 3rd between 8:30-9:00 AM and Depart for Mine at 9:00 AM SHARP. 

    Meet Up Location: (meeting location and trip details will be sent via email after registration)

    2. The cellular coverage is spotty at best and non-existent in some locations, so do not rely on that for communication.  Quartzsite and Yuma are good, but between that is a crap shoot.

    3. This is intended as an overnight trip for those who desire, with tent camping at the mine site (an RV doesn't' have a prayer getting there and back). You're free to head home or to a hotel (nearest is in Yuma) after collecting, but it is highly advised that you plan to be at least back to Martinez Lake by dusk. You can also make it a long one day there and back trip or book a motel room in Quartzsite or Yuma.  Entirely up to you but some of us will be camping for at least one night. 

    For those who camp overnight Saturday, plan is for late afternoon gathering for dinner and hang out by fire bowl.  Bring your grub, drink, and chairs…maybe warm clothes.

    If you stay the night or until after dark, Red Cloud is an excellent night collecting spot for fluorescent minerals so bring your portable UV lights.

    4. From the meet up spot to the mine is another 16 miles and takes a full hour and a half (or more). The last 14 miles are off-road with both rocky and sandy areas. 
    High Clearance is REQUIRED.  2WD okay, but 4WD recommended. Do not even think about trying to take an RV or trailer from the lake to the mine. As someone from another club found out the hard way as you will get stuck. 

    5. Ride sharing is not being coordinated for this trip.

    6. Red Cloud is open to the public, so this trip is not limited to just dues-paying members. Feel free to invite rockhounding friends.  

    7. Red Cloud is also private property, not just a claim on federal land, so behave and follow any rules or instructions the mine manager tells you.  GOLDEN RULES apply.

    8. See below for fee info including the extra fee (and gear required) to collect at the North Geronimo. Cash only and bring extra cash. Roger will likely have specimens from both mines for sale, at discounted prices, which are better quality than you're likely to find.

    9. Please RSVP to me ASAP BY AUGUST 30, 2022 with how many people in your group if you're planning to meet at the meetup spot on Saturday, December 3rd so we know to expect you and include your cell number and vehicle description.    

    As always, text or email if you have any questions. Chris Whitney-Smith at 602-405-1502 or ask.chrisws@yahoo.com

    RECOMMENDED: 

    • Red Cloud Mine (Surface): rock hammer, chisels, 3-5 lb sledgehammer, hard hat, safety glasses, gloves, long pants, long sleeve shirts, collecting container/bucket.  Sturdy shoes or boots and normal day hiking items.  Sunscreen, hat, extra water. 
    • Fluorescent Hunting: portable UV lamps or lights. 
    • South Geronimo Mine (Surface): rock hammer, chisels, 3-5 lb sledgehammer, hard hat, safety glasses, gloves, long pants, long sleeve shirts, collecting container/bucket.  Sturdy shoes or boots and normal day hiking items.  Sunscreen, hat, extra water. 
    • North Geronimo Mine (UNDERGROUND): (limit number of collectors and physical condition): headlamp attached to hard hat.  (Charged up batteries for headlamp). Rock hammer, chisels, safety glasses, gloves, long pants, long sleeve shirts, collecting backpack or container/bucket, sturdy shoes or boots.


    FEES & INFORMATION (CASH ONLY):

    RED CLOUD MINE (SURFACE): Collecting in the tailing piles and in the pit rubble: 

    - $35 per person per day (Wulfenite/Fluorescents). 

    - No bucket limit as long as it's reasonable and you keep what you find. 

    - Keep what you find.

    - There may be other fees for collecting in other areas.  Roger (the mine manager) is a great guy and will try to accommodate other requests.

    Bring Hard Hats if you have them. If not, he has some available. Hard hats will only be required at Red Cloud if you are digging on the shelves in the pit, or you at the bottom when people are digging on the shelves above you. Falling rock hazard if you haven't guessed.


    SOUTH GERONIMO MINE (SURFACE): Roughly a mile from Red Cloud, under the same ownership. Has Vanadinite, Wulfenite and fluorescent minerals.  

    - $60 per person per day (Vanadinite/Wulfenite/Fluorescents).

    All prices firm and may not be combined with Red Cloud fees.

    - Keep what you find.


    NORTH GERONIMO MINE (UNDERGROUND): (for a brief period known as the Pure Potential):  Roughly a mile from Red Cloud, under the same ownership. Very, very well known for exceptional Vanadinite. 

    - $100 per person per day (Vanadinite).

    - $50 per 5 gallon bucket (Fluorescent Material).

    - All prices firm and may not be combined with Red Cloud fees.

    - Approximately 5-10 people in the mine at the same time.

    - Must be 18+ Years for Underground at North Geronimo. 

    - Must be physically fit for Underground and Ladders.

    - Keep what you find.

    - Hard Hats with attached Headlamps Required.  Have extra charged up batteries for headlamps.

    North Geronimo is underground collecting only, there are no tailing piles. He considers it a very safe mine to be in, but hard hats with attached lights are absolutely, positively 100% required (charge up your light batteries).  Don't assume Roger has spare lights.  Hard hats and lights are cheap at Home Depot.

    The kicker: you must be physically fit The mine is not deep, but it is small and cramped compared to other underground mines. The opening is small, I'm guessing no more than 3 feet by 3 feet through the steel grate covering the shaft. The first ladders are vertical and drop for 20 feet to a platform, then there's another 40 feet of ladder down the incline shaft (approx. 30 degrees incline). Total depth is about 60 feet.  Roger recommends that gear be lowered and raised by rope down the first 20 feet. Vertical ladder climb up and out of North Geronimo can be strenuous.

    Roger will also have specimens available for sale from both mines, at wholesale prices so bring extra cash if you want to buy. Prices will range from $10 into the hundreds depending on what it is and the quality and size.

    Oh, and one last thing and it's important: Roger and the property owner are bringing in an excavator and plan to turn over the tailing piles and the crap in the pit before we get there. This will expose fresh material and is part of the reason the prices have increased.  Diesel for the excavator ain't' cheap.





    • 01/14/2023

    This will be an evening trip with a fee.  It is being led by Bill Freese.  More information forthcoming.

    • 02/18/2023
    • Aquarius Mountains

    This is a rugged 4WD trip into the Aquarius Mountains to hunt for garnets in rhyolite.  The trip will be led by Ken Elliot.

    All other information TBD.

    • 02/25/2023

    Calcite is abundant north of Lake Pleasant.  Eric Lewis will be leading this trip and update us on the specifics.

    • 03/04/2023

    These mines are for Fluorite and Amethyst.  Eric Lewis has volunteered to lead this trip and will provide more information later.

    • 03/11/2023

    The Chilito Mine, near Hayden, is an old copper mine and a favorite destination for club members.  We will join with Bill Freese of the Daisy Mountain Club for this  epic field trip.  More information will added later.

    • 03/18/2023

    Another CLASSIC locality is the peridotite nodules in basalt at Peridot Mesa.  We will be joined by the Daisy Mountain Club for this trip.  More information about where and when to meet will be added.

    • 04/05/2023

    No, this in not a mistake.  This is a mid-week trip with Daisy Mountain Club.  

    • 05/06/2023

    Petrified Wood is the object of this trip.  We will again be joining with the Daisy Mountain Club for this trip.  More information forthcoming.

    • 07/22/2023

    Sometime in late July... tentatively set for 22, 23, 24, but that is not carved in stone.   More information will be added as I obtain it.

    • 08/12/2023

    Chris Whitney-Smith will be our guide on this museum tour.  Currently this is all of the information I have available.

    • 09/09/2023

    At an elevation of around 7000' it will be a pleasant break from the oppressive heat of the Phoenix area.  We will be joining the Daisy Mountain trip for a cool day collecting some Banded Iron Formation (BIF).

    • 10/14/2023

    Chris Whitney-Smith will lead us on the quest for quartz crystals at this well known Arizona collecting locality.  More info TBD.

    • 10/28/2023

    This collecting trip will be for chalcedony lined geodes.  Not much chance of finding crystal lined geodes but they do fluoresce nicely.  Rick Olson will be our leader for this trip.  Details TBD.

    • 11/17/2023

    Need to get away for a few days?  Join Steve Baker on a fun filled camping trip to eastern Arizona along the New Mexico border to collect geodes and other interesting pieces of chalcedony.  Possible trips to collect fluorite may be included.

    • 11/26/2023

    Another "classic" field trip will take place on Sunday to the Camp Verde area to collect calcite/aragonite/gypsum pseudomorphs after glauberite.

    • 12/01/2023

    It's December... Of course the Red Cloud Mine is on the Schedule.  Join Chris Whitney-Smith on this great adventure.  More information (including fees) will be added to this description.

    • 12/16/2023

    Back in January 2023 we started off with a trip for calcite near Lake Pleasant.  Well, we had so much fun we decided to end the field trip calendar with another trip for calcite.  Eric Lewis will again fill us in on the details as the time approaches.

Past events

11/19/2022 CHILITO MINE
11/17/2022 UPDATE: MSA Monthly (ZOOM ONLY) Meeting - November 17, 2022 - "Bigger Isn’t Always Better: What I Have Learned Building my Collection" - Presented by Kyle Kevorkian
11/05/2022 2ND PHOENIX HERITAGE GEM & MINERAL SHOW - DINNER EVENT
11/05/2022 2ND PHOENIX HERITAGE GEM & MINERAL SHOW - RSVP VISITOR
10/20/2022 MSA Monthly (In-Person & Zoom) Meeting - October 20, 2022 - "Paramelaconite from Bisbee - The type locality for an ultra-rare copper mineral" Presented by Mr. Evan Jones
10/01/2022 Diamond Point, Near Payson Arizona: Saturday, October 1, 2022
09/07/2022 Mingus Mountain for "Banded Iron Formation"
08/13/2022 14th Annual Gilbert Fine Mineral Sale 2022
07/30/2022 PHOENIX HERITAGE GEM & MINERAL SHOW - DINNER EVENT
07/30/2022 PHOENIX HERITAGE GEM & MINERAL SHOW - RSVP VISITOR
07/23/2022 MSA FIELD TRIP: BISBEE & TOMBSTONE MINE TOURS
06/25/2022 Saturday, June 25, 2022 - SPECIAL SIGNING EVENT: Fourth Edition Mineralogy of Arizona at UArizona Alfie Norville Gem & Mineral Museum
06/16/2022 MSA June 16, 2022 - “LGF Gallery: Minerals, Fossils, Petrified Wood and (Touch Outer Space: fragments of the Moon, Mars and Meteorites) hosted by Mr. Mike Fleeman
06/10/2022 CANCELED Colorado Multi-Day Trip: June 10th-11th, 2022
06/04/2022 Saturday, June 4, 2022 - SPECIAL EVENT: MSA & Pinal Geology & Mineral Museum, Coolidge, AZ
05/21/2022 Fossils in the Pennsylvanian Naco Formation
05/19/2022 MSA Monthly (In-Person & Zoom) Meeting: May 19, 2022 - "The Science & Art of Fluorescent Mineral Displays: Designing the Fluorescent Mineral Display at the UArizona Alfie Norville Gem & Mineral Museum” Presented by Mr. George V. Polman
05/07/2022 Luna Agate
04/21/2022 MSA Monthly (In-Person & Zoom) Meeting: April 21, 2022 - "Bisbee - America's Mineral Locality", Richard W. "Dick" Graeme III, King and Keeper of Bisbee's Legacy” Presented by Mr. Les Presmyk and Mr. Mark Hay
04/03/2022 MSA FIELD TRIP: CAMP VERDE
03/17/2022 MSA Monthly (In-Person & Zoom) Meeting: March 17th 2022 - "Identifying Critical Mineral Resources in New Mexico” by Dr. Virginia “Ginger” McLemore
03/05/2022 MSA FIELD TRIP: BLUE BALL MINE
02/17/2022 MSA Monthly (In-Person & Zoom) Meeting: February 17th 2022 - "Hidden Treasures at the Natural History Museum of Los Angeles (NHMLA)" by Mr. Stan Celestian
01/22/2022 Chilito Mine
01/13/2022 ** UPDATE: MSA Monthly (ZOOM MEETING ONLY) - January 13, 2022 - "African Mineral Safari” Presented by Jeff Scovil
01/07/2022 49th Annual Flagg Gem & Mineral Show 2022
12/26/2021 Round Mountain Arizona CANCELED!
12/03/2021 MSA FIELD TRIP: RED CLOUD MINE (Overnight Trip)
11/18/2021 MSA Monthly (In-Person & Zoom) Meeting - November 18, 2021 - "Fluorescence in Petrified Wood” Presented by Mike Fleeman
11/13/2021 Chilito Mine Field Trip
11/07/2021 Date Creek Quartz
10/21/2021 MSA Monthly (In-Person & Zoom) Meeting - October 21, 2021 - "Mineralogy of Arizona-Fourth Edition” Presented by Dr. Raymond Grant
10/08/2021 Searles Lake California CANCELLED - Again...
10/02/2021 MSA FIELD TRIP: DIAMOND POINT (QUARTZ)
09/25/2021 FIELD TRIP: Mingus Mountain Banded Iron Formation (Saturday, September 25, 2021)
09/16/2021 MSA Monthly (In-Person & Zoom) Meeting - September 16, 2021 - "Quartz – Another Mineral Arizona Should Be Famous For” Presented by Mr. Les Presmyk
08/21/2021 13th Annual Gilbert Fine Mineral Sale 2021
07/24/2021 MSA FIELD TRIP: BISBEE & TOMBSTONE MINE TOURS
06/10/2021 MSA Monthly Meeting - June 10, 2021 - “LGF Gallery: Minerals, Fossils and Meteorites Oh My" by Mr. Mike Fleeman
06/05/2021 Panning for Gold
05/26/2021 DoBell Ranch Petrified Wood
05/20/2021 MSA Monthly Meeting - May 20, 2021 - “Laser Stimulated Fluorescence from Earth to Mars" by Mr. Tom Kaye
05/01/2021 Dave Haneline Mine (formerly Blue Owl Mine)
04/24/2021 PALEO SITE FOSSIL COLLECTING
04/08/2021 MSA Monthly Meeting - April 2021 - "Rock Candy" by Mr. Stan Celestian
04/07/2021 2021 Tucson's Gem and Mineral Shows
03/27/2021 MSA FIELD TRIP: CHILITO MINE
03/14/2021 MSA FIELD TRIP: BLUE CUBE, PRISM & SPECTRUM MINES
03/11/2021 MSA Monthly Meeting - March 2021 - "Gold: A journey from the Big Bang to the forest of the Amazon" By Dr. Terry Wallace Jr.
03/06/2021 2021 Apache Junction Rock Sale
03/06/2021 MSA FIELD TRIP: BLUE BALL MINE
02/27/2021 MSA FIELD TRIP: PLANET MINE
02/18/2021 MSA Monthly Meeting - February 2021 - "TEN TALL TRUE TALES Plus One" By Mr. Bob Jones
01/30/2021 MSA FIELD TRIP: ANDERSON MINE
01/21/2021 MSA Monthly Meeting - January 2021 - “Crystalline Eye Candy” presented by Jeff Scovil
12/19/2020 MSA FIELD TRIP: RED CLOUD MINE (Overnight Trip)
12/06/2020 POSTPONED: Mineralogical Society of Arizona - Founder's Day Show - Celebrating MSA's 85th Birthday
11/21/2020 CANCELED: MSA FIELD TRIP: CAMP VERDE SALT MINE
11/21/2020 CANCELED - MSA FIELD TRIP: ANDERSON MINE (Overnight Trip)
11/19/2020 MSA Monthly Meeting - November 2020 - 'Behind the Scenes of the New UA Alfie Norville Gem and Mineral Museum' Presented by Mr. Eric Fritz
11/14/2020 POSTPONED UNTIL JAN or FEB 2021: MSA FIELD TRIP: AQUARIUS MTS
10/17/2020 MSA FIELD TRIP: CHILITO MINE
10/10/2020 MSA FIELD TRIP: DIAMOND POINT (QUARTZ)
10/08/2020 MSA Monthly Meeting - October 2020 - 'Arizona's Kartchner Caverns State Park' Presented by Mr. Bob Jones
09/26/2020 MSA FIELD TRIP: PAYSON FOSSILS
09/17/2020 MSA Monthly Meeting - September 2020 - "Cleaning and Mineral Prep 101 - Why Do We Clean and Trim Specimens?” Presented by Mr. Les Presmyk
07/11/2020 23rd Gem, Mineral and Fossil Show - Lakeside
06/11/2020 CANCELLED EVENT - MSA Monthly Meeting - June 2020
05/29/2020 CANCELLED EVENT _ Coconino Lapidary Club Annual Show
05/14/2020 CANCELLED EVENT _ MSA Monthly Meeting - May 2020
05/02/2020 CANCELLED EVENT _ Mohave County Gemstoners - Annual Show
04/18/2020 CANCELLED EVENT _ Rocks in the Park - Verde River Rockhounds
04/09/2020 CANCELLED EVENT - MSA Monthly Meeting - April 2020
04/03/2020 CANCELLED EVENT - 2020 Minerals of Arizona 28th Annual Symposium
03/28/2020 CANCELLED EVENT - AZ Mining, Mineral and Natural Resources Education Museum's 2nd Public Outdoor Event
03/21/2020 2020 Anthem Gem & Mineral Show - CANCELLED
03/14/2020 Touch Outer Space and Pinal Gem and Mineral Show
03/12/2020 MSA Monthly Meeting - March 2020 CANCELLED - NEW TBD
02/29/2020 Apache Junction - Jewelry, Gem & Rock Show
02/20/2020 MSA Monthly Meeting - February 2020
02/13/2020 Tucson Gem and Mineral Show
01/09/2020 MSA Monthly Meeting - January 2020
01/01/2020 Arizona Gem Shows - Quartzsite, AZ

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